tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post4969040539474860537..comments2023-11-23T02:29:35.504-05:00Comments on Scott Spendolini's Blog: Full of CRUDScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01187435106015051061noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-57331212065971818102012-05-16T14:36:42.841-04:002012-05-16T14:36:42.841-04:00@Niels de Bruijn
Garner consists of people. Peopl...@Niels de Bruijn<br /><br />Garner consists of people. People make mistakes...we are allowed to fail from time to time as long as we keep thinking. Gartner is not the equivalent to "TRUE"Marco Gralikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810709424310804316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-48514695942690132342012-05-11T14:49:00.065-04:002012-05-11T14:49:00.065-04:00I completely agree with you. People tend to compar...I completely agree with you. People tend to compare APEX with ADF and they just shouldn't. Who sponsored Gartner to write such an article?Niels de Bruijnhttp://portal.mt-ag.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-79732427971986039482012-05-11T02:47:34.148-04:002012-05-11T02:47:34.148-04:00Amen to that Scott! A sharply written, thoughtful ...Amen to that Scott! A sharply written, thoughtful and constructive response.Peetebahttp://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-34676270077847660342012-05-10T19:56:18.127-04:002012-05-10T19:56:18.127-04:00The fallacy of the article is that it assumes anyo...The fallacy of the article is that it assumes anyone using Java is automatically a high quality developer/designer - bordering on expert - in web technology.<br /><br />I have yet to find any so-called Jave expert to be of any use in, for example, web-based development.<br /><br />Let's be very precise here: Java is a programming language. Not a development environment/architecture!<br /><br />Now, if someone claims that j2ee or faces or ajax are java-based architectures that have a lot of value in them to be used for web-related development, I am 100% in agreement. (But that is NOT what the article claimed!)<br /><br />Does that in any way, shape or format mean that a Java "expert" is automatically an expert in ALL of those? <br /><br />Find me one! And I mean it!<br /><br />This is where all these articles, purporting to equate "java knowledge" with "expertise in everything IT", fail. Abismally.<br /><br />I have over the last 10 years followed just about every major java web-based development in NSW, Australia. <br /><br />With few exceptions, most of those projects have grossly under-performed. In late delivery - and in many instances just plain non-delivery! Most went grossly over-budget and many were just simply cancelled due to the astronomical costs and delays.<br /><br />And most had to be "re-architected" and re-factored" long before reaching completion.<br /><br />That is NOT the hallmark of expertise or efficiency, in any language!<br /><br />In that same period, I followed three major Forms design/development projects and various Apex ones. <br />ALL where successful, on-time and on-budget. No exception.<br /><br />Give me Apex/Forms any day, for any small to medium size development project. <br />No apologies.Noonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285930853937157148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-56407330655030694912012-05-10T17:48:32.351-04:002012-05-10T17:48:32.351-04:00Great post!Great post!Learco Brizzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-80849620757098817562012-05-10T17:21:19.058-04:002012-05-10T17:21:19.058-04:00"The key factor that was largely ignored in t..."The key factor that was largely ignored in this and so many other migration papers is simple: people."<br />With this I totally agree. Making a good application or migrating one depends on the developers. Ask them what the best way is to go.raoulhttp://www.mraoul.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8449039.post-75349061851817043732012-05-10T14:13:53.271-04:002012-05-10T14:13:53.271-04:00I agree completely. With due respect to Joel, Scot...I agree completely. With due respect to Joel, Scott has a much more nuanced rebuttal to the Gartner analyst.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com